{"product_id":"8x8-no-1-better-green-rough-fir-dimensional-lumber","title":"8\" x 8\" #1 \u0026 Better Green Rough Fir Dimensional Lumber","description":"\u003cstyle\u003e\n.pb-wrap{--pb-line:#e1e3e5;--pb-head:#f6f6f7;max-width:100%}\n.pb-wrap .pb-intro{margin-bottom:20px}\n.pb-acc{border:1px solid var(--pb-line);border-radius:8px;margin:0 0 8px;overflow:hidden}\n.pb-acc\u003esummary{cursor:pointer;padding:14px 16px;font-weight:600;line-height:1.35;\n list-style:none;display:flex;justify-content:space-between;align-items:center;gap:12px}\n.pb-acc\u003esummary::-webkit-details-marker{display:none}\n.pb-acc\u003esummary::marker{content:\"\"}\n.pb-acc\u003esummary::after{content:\"+\";font-size:22px;font-weight:400;line-height:1;flex:0 0 auto}\n.pb-acc[open]\u003esummary::after{content:\"\\2212\"}\n.pb-acc[open]\u003esummary{border-bottom:1px solid var(--pb-line);background:var(--pb-head)}\n.pb-acc\u003esummary:hover{background:var(--pb-head)}\n.pb-acc .pb-body{padding:16px}\n.pb-acc .pb-body\u003e:first-child{margin-top:0}\n.pb-acc .pb-body\u003e:last-child{margin-bottom:0}\n.pb-q{border:0;border-bottom:1px solid var(--pb-line);border-radius:0;margin:0}\n.pb-q:last-child{border-bottom:0}\n.pb-q\u003esummary{padding:12px 0;font-weight:600}\n.pb-q[open]\u003esummary{background:transparent;border-bottom:0}\n.pb-q\u003esummary:hover{background:transparent;text-decoration:underline}\n.pb-q .pb-body{padding:0 0 12px}\n.pb-scroll{overflow-x:auto;-webkit-overflow-scrolling:touch}\n.pb-table{width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;min-width:380px}\n.pb-table th,.pb-table td{border:1px solid var(--pb-line);padding:8px 10px;\n text-align:left;vertical-align:top}\n.pb-table thead th{background:var(--pb-head)}\n.pb-table caption{caption-side:top;text-align:left;font-weight:600;padding:0 0 8px}\n.pb-note{font-size:13px;opacity:.75;margin-top:16px}\n.pb-wrap a{color:#3b82f6}\n.pb-wrap a:hover{color:#2563eb}\n\u003c\/style\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-wrap\"\u003e\n\u003ch2\u003e8\" x 8\" #1 \u0026amp; Better Green Rough Fir Dimensional Lumber\u003c\/h2\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"pb-intro\"\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eThis is an 8x8 in No. 1 \u0026amp; Better fir, sold green and rough sawn. It is a heavy timber size in 10, 12, 16 and 20 ft lengths, used for posts, beams, timber framing and landscape structures.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eGreen and rough means it is not dried or planed.\u003c\/strong\u003e The timber still holds its moisture, so it shrinks and can check or twist as it dries in place. The surface keeps its sawn texture and the finished dimensions vary from piece to piece, so check the size against your layout before you order. Contact us if you need a dimension confirmed.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eFeatures and Common Uses\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNo. 1 \u0026amp; Better grade fir, a grade with fewer and smaller defects than No. 2 and suited to heavier construction\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGreen, with a moisture content above 19%, so it is soft to cut and drill and costs less than kiln-dried timber\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRough sawn, keeping the texture left by the sawmill for an exposed, rustic look\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAn 8 in. square section for heavy posts, beams and timber-frame members\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNot pressure treated, so it is for dry, above-ground or temporary use\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eCommonly used for:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePosts and beams for pergolas, barns and timber-frame structures\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eExposed beams, mantels and rustic timber features\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLandscape timbers, retaining edges and steps above ground\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHeavy cribbing, shoring and forming\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eSpecifications\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"pb-scroll\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"pb-table\"\u003e\n\u003ccaption\u003eProduct Specifications\u003c\/caption\u003e\n\u003ctbody\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eProduct\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e8x8 No. 1 \u0026amp; Better Fir, Green, Rough\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eSpecies\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eFir\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eGrade\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eNo. 1 \u0026amp; Better\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eNominal size\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e8 in. x 8 in.\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eAvailable lengths\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e10, 12, 16 and 20 ft\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eMoisture content\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eGreen, above 19%\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003eSurface\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eRough sawn, not planed\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003cth scope=\"row\"\u003ePressure treated\u003c\/th\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eNo\u003c\/td\u003e\n\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/tbody\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"pb-note\"\u003eRough-sawn timber is not milled to a fixed finished size, so actual thickness and width vary by piece and by sawmill. Grade and species are stamped on each piece and are the governing record for what you receive. Post and beam sizing depends on span, load and local code, so confirm it with your engineer or building inspector.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eFrequently Asked Questions\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc pb-q\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eWhat does green rough mean?\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eGreen means the timber has not been kiln dried and holds moisture above 19%. Rough means it is sawn but not planed, so the surface keeps its sawmill texture. Expect shrinkage as it dries.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc pb-q\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eWhat does No. 1 and Better mean?\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt is a visual grade. No. 1 and Better timber has fewer and smaller knots and defects than No. 2, and the grade can include higher grades above No. 1. It is a step up from the #2 and Better stock used for general framing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc pb-q\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eWhat is the actual size of an 8x8?\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt varies. A rough-sawn 8x8 is not planed to a set finished size, so the actual thickness and width differ from piece to piece. Contact us if a specific dimension matters for your project.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc pb-q\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eWill it crack as it dries?\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSome surface checking is normal in large green timbers as they dry, and it is usually cosmetic. The timber can also twist or shrink, so allow for movement in your design and stack it flat with spacers if you store it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/details\u003e\n\u003cdetails class=\"pb-acc pb-q\"\u003e\u003csummary\u003eCan I bury it in the ground?\u003c\/summary\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"pb-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eNo. It is not pressure treated, so it will rot in ground contact or constant wet. 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